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chim chim cha boo
12:36 Sun Mar 29
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LG have got what I consider to be the first big upgrade on my 6 year old Pioneer telly coming out this month. It's the best pixel technology, OLED (picture quality is all about black levels and LED and LCD tellies suffer because they have a backlight or sidelights so the screen never really goes black, at best it switches off, OLED actually has a black pixel so it can achieve perfect blacks) and it's future-proof being UHD or 4K as it's called.
I'm not convinced about curved screens but LG are using the latest flexible screen technology so you can have it as a curved screen but at the touch of a button on the remote control the TV goes absolutely flat. How fucking cool is that? I don't think they even had one of those on Tracy Island.
I don't know how expensive it'll be but something tells me it won't be cheap.
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Texas Iron
5:11 Sun Mar 29
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4k TV's useless until there are media sources...Cable...Satellite...DVD ...Internet etc...that deliver program content etc of 4k level...
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Coffee
7:04 Sun Mar 29
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chim chim cha boo 12:36 Sun Mar 29
"LG are using the latest flexible screen technology so you can have it as a curved screen but at the touch of a button on the remote control the TV goes absolutely flat. How fucking cool is that?"
In 20 years, social historians will read that and giggle.
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SecondOpinion
8:49 Sun Mar 29
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chim chim cha boo 12:36 Sun Mar 29
at the touch of a button on the remote control the TV goes absolutely flat.
Is there a motor in the telly that does that?
If you use that function too much, will the telly break from all that bending?
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Hermit Road
9:31 Sun Mar 29
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What does future proof mean in practice? Surely a better technology will be along in another few years?
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Monk~koknee
9:35 Sun Mar 29
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Technology for the sake of it and pointless in a pocket sized living room.
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Ronald_antly
9:36 Sun Mar 29
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In 20 years time, they will be making monochrome CRT televisions again.
In the same vein that some people have the hots for vinyl records again.
There's nowt as queer as folk!
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Monk~koknee
9:38 Sun Mar 29
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The irony being though, Ron, that when music went digital the sound quality reduced significantly.
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Ronald_antly
9:40 Sun Mar 29
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So I've heard.
I've never really understood why that should be, though.
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Monk~koknee
9:43 Sun Mar 29
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Because a digital recording only samples the original analogue and is thus only an approximation of the complete sound wave governed by the sampling rate.
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Ronald_antly
9:45 Sun Mar 29
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Are you talking specifically about old analogue recordings having being converted to digital?
I have no expertise in the field of sound recording.
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Monk~koknee
9:48 Sun Mar 29
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No I mean that the original sound is analogue. A vinyl record is an analogue recording of an analogue sound. A digital recording is a sampling of an analogue sound which is then converted to analogue to feed through an amplifier.
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Ronald_antly
9:49 Sun Mar 29
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Whoa whoa whoa!!
Slow down, Professor!
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Texas Iron
12:33 Sun Mar 29
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No substitute for Vinyl...but you need a Top of the line system...turntable...amp...stylus...speakers etc...
$5grand get you an entry level version...
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Joe C
12:48 Sun Mar 29
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You don't need to spend anything like that
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On The Ball
1:07 Sun Mar 29
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Someone in a shop told him that, Joe. Must be true.
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MrCrowmanSir
1:44 Sun Mar 29
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Will they still have a scart port for my VHS player?
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chim chim cha boo
2:03 Sun Mar 29
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For a start, flexible screens are already with us so a TV that bends to how you want to watch it is a simple jump. The real reason they have developed flexible screens is for wearable tech like watches where the screen goes right round your wrist with no strap. I've a feeling it's a technology they are really waiting for a proper use for.
4K is NOT irrelevant. Most of the stuff that's being shot now is in native 4K and downscaled to HD. The detail of 4K means you can sit much closer to the TV without the pixels breaking up and the picture looking shit. 4K means bigger TVs and TVs with better pictures in small rooms. The question everyone asks when buying a current TV is 'how big can I have it?' and the salesman says 'well how big is your viewing room'? THAT conversation becomes irrelevant.
I can almost hear some of you sticking your nose in the air and saying 'I think big televisions show very poor taste'. Stick that up your arse!
As for Digital music (which is another benefit of 4K- the audio bitrate will go right up and music and dialogue will sound better) the problem lies not in the media itself but the way it's compressed. Most new music is recorded at very high quality (typically 192K 24 bit) and then downsampled to 44.1k 16bit which is CD quality.
The problem comes after that when you buy something from iTunes or an MP3. What iTunes want to do is give you 'reasonable' quality but in a small file.
So someone worked out that if there's a loud sound in a track, most people can't hear the thing that comes immediately after, so the compression software cuts that bit out. It keeps doing that until the file is nice and small.
For a lot of people that's fine, but if you've got nice headphones or a nice stereo you can hear where the sound is cut and it manifests itself as a very thin sound when compared to a CD, AIFF or WAV file.
Basically, people like Apple decided long ago that it was much more impressive (to the average mong) that an iPod could hold 20,000 songs than 2,000 at very high quality.
So, Coffee, are people going to laugh at that in 20 years too?
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threesixty
2:39 Sun Mar 29
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The problem with 4k today is content. The majority of day to day viewing is stil in 720p if it's HD. 75% of the channels on cable are in 480p. So everything has to be upscaled and I'm not sure how good that looks on a 4k tv right now.
Upscaling will get better but it's hard to switch from super detailed 4k tv to an upscaled 480p signal. The closer you sit I imagine it will look terrible.
You also need to have pretty good vision and sit quite close to the tv to truly appreciate the difference. Yes, if I were to buy a new tv now I'd probably buy 4k just because it's there but I think it will be a few years before it provides a complete solution for most average tv viewers.
As for the sound stuff. Unless your a child your hearing cant appreciate half the frequencies in sound that are capable in high bit recordings. If you do want hear that detail you have to pay a lot of money for equipment that bring it out. Unless you have a top grade audio equipment and pretty good ears you really arent going to tell the difference between AAC files that Apple sells and CD's. You just aren't.
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chim chim cha boo
2:53 Sun Mar 29
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threesixty 2:39 Sun Mar 29
Good post. I can easily hear the difference between an AAC file and a CD (or a WAV). There again as you can probably tell, I'm a bit OCD with that sort of stuff and have a nice stereo.
I also to a certain degree agree about 4K. If you're someone who watches Eastenders and a bit of football it's not worth getting rid of your current HD TV. If you love ultimate picture quality and have a Blueray collection a lot of 4K tellies and players upscale superbly.
If my 6 year old Pioneer goes pop (God I hope it doesn't) I know what TV I'd get. I haven't been able to say that since Pioneer shut down their TV-making facility. I'm a video editor so a lot of the time I have to show clients what I've done. I've got to have a great TV to show my edits off in their best light.
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